DRAFT MINUTES

DRAFT MINUTES

Meeting ID	13609
Committee	Y Pwyllgor Iechyd a Gofal Cymdeithasol
Date	07/06/2023
Attendees	Russell George AS (Cadeirydd) Rhun ap Iorwerth AS (Aelod) Gareth Davies AS (Aelod) Sarah Murphy AS (Aelod) Jack Sargeant AS (Aelod) Joyce Watson AS (Aelod) Huw Irranca-Davies AS (Aelod) Helen Finlayson (Clerc) Claire Morris (Ail Glerc) Rhiannon Williams (Dirprwy Glerc) Mahima Khan (Monitor) Karen Williams (Monitor) Gabriela Dimitrova (Monitor) Rhayna Mann (Monitor) Delyth Wiliams (Monitor) Amy Clifton (Monitor) Sarah Hatherley (Monitor) Rebekah James (Monitor) Kathryn Potter (Monitor) Philippa Watkins (Monitor) Dr Paul Worthington (Monitor) Masudah Ali (Cynghorydd Cyfreithiol) Gareth Howells (Cynghorydd Cyfreithiol) Sam Mason (Cynghorydd Cyfreithiol) MSS Russell George (Monitor) MSS Rhun ap Iorwerth (Monitor) MSS Gareth Davies (Monitor) MSS Huw Irranca-Davies (Monitor) MSS Sarah Murphy (Monitor) MSS Jack Sargeant (Monitor) MSS Joyce Watson (Monitor) Central Admin (Monitor) Access All Committees (Monitor) TRS Admin group (Monitor) Access to Health and Social Care Committee (Monitor) Publishers for Health and Social Care Committee (Sixth Senedd) (Monitor) TRS - Users (Monitor) Pwyllgor Iechyd a Gofal Cymdeithasol (Monitor) Eluned Morgan AS (Gweinidog) Dafydd Evans (Public) Nick Lambert (Public) Leanne Roberts (Public) Mari Williams (Public)

Item ID	80140
Item Title	Cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau
Summary	1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting. 1.2 Apologies were received from Joyce Watson MS. 1.3 Huw Irranca-Davies MS substituted for Joyce Watson MS

Item ID	80145
Item Title	Papurau i'w nodi
Summary

Item ID	80146
Item Title	Llythyr gan y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol ynghylch Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru)
Summary	2.1 The Committee noted the letter.

Item ID	80147
Item Title	Llythyr gan y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol at y Pwyllgor Cyllid ynghylch Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru)
Summary	2.2 The Committee noted the letter.

Item ID	80148
Item Title	Llythyr gan y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol at y Pwyllgor Deddfwriaeth, Cyfiawnder a’r Cyfansoddiad ynghylch Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru)
Summary	2.3 The Committee noted the letter.

Item ID	80149
Item Title	Ymateb gan y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol i adroddiad y Pwyllgor ar Fil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru)
Summary	2.4 The Committee noted the response.

Item ID	80150
Item Title	Llythyr at Bwyllgorau Senedd y DU ac Aelodau Seneddol Cymru ynghylch Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru)
Summary	2.5 The Committee noted the letter.

Item ID	80151
Item Title	Llythyr gan y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol ynghylch gwelliant Cyfnod 2 Llywodraeth Cymru i Fil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru)
Summary	2.6 The Committee noted the letter.

Item ID

80141

Item Title

Bil Caffael y Gwasanaeth Iechyd (Cymru): Trafodion Cyfnod 2

Summary

In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee disposed of the following amendments to the Bill:

Amendment 1 (Gareth Davies)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Gareth Davies	Rhun ap Iorwerth
Russell George	Huw Irranca Davies
	Sarah Murphy
	Jack Sargeant
Amendment 1 was not agreed.

Amendment 2 (Gareth Davies)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Gareth Davies	Rhun ap Iorwerth
Russell George	Huw Irranca Davies
	Sarah Murphy
	Jack Sargeant
Amendment 2 was not agreed.

Amendment 14 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 14 was not agreed.

Amendment 11 (Eluned Morgan)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Huw Irranca Davies		Rhun ap Iorwerth
Sarah Murphy		Gareth Davies
Jack Sargeant		Russell George
Amendment 11 was agreed.

Amendment 3 (Gareth Davies)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 3 was not agreed.

Amendment 4 (Gareth Davies)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 4 was not agreed.

Amendment 5 (Gareth Davies)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 5 was not agreed.

Amendment 6 (Gareth Davies)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Gareth Davies	Rhun ap Iorwerth
Russell George	Huw Irranca Davies
	Sarah Murphy
	Jack Sargeant
Amendment 6 was not agreed.

Amendment 7 (Gareth Davies)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Gareth Davies	Rhun ap Iorwerth
Russell George	Huw Irranca Davies
	Sarah Murphy
	Jack Sargeant
Amendment 7 was not agreed.

Amendment 8 (Gareth Davies)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 8 was not agreed.

Amendment 15 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 15 was not agreed.

Amendment 16 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 16 was not agreed.

Amendment 17 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 17 was not agreed.

Amendment 18 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 18 was not agreed.

Amendment 19 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 19 was not agreed.

Amendment 20 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 20 was not agreed.

Amendment 21 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 21 was not agreed.

Amendment 22 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 22 was not agreed.

Amendment 23 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Gareth Davies
	Russell George
	Huw Irranca Davies
	Sarah Murphy
	Jack Sargeant
Amendment 23 was not agreed.

Amendment 24 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 24 was not agreed.

Amendment 25 (Rhun ap Iorwerth) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 9 (Gareth Davies)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Gareth Davies	Rhun ap Iorwerth
Russell George	Huw Irranca Davies
	Sarah Murphy
	Jack Sargeant
Amendment 9 was not agreed.

Amendment 26 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 26 was not agreed.

Amendment 27 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 27 was not agreed.

Amendment 28 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 28 was not agreed.

Amendment 10 (Gareth Davies)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 10 was not agreed.

Amendment 29 (Rhun ap Iorwerth)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 29 was not agreed.

Amendment 12 (Gareth Davies)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 12 was not agreed.

Amendment 13 (Gareth Davies)

In Favour	Against	Abstain
Rhun ap Iorwerth	Huw Irranca Davies
Gareth Davies	Sarah Murphy
Russell George	Jack Sargeant
As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 13 was not agreed.